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Thursday, January 19, 2012

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I need to address a comment that was sent to me today on this blog, a comment I cannot post because of its derogatory nature and I have children who read this blog.  In addition, the commenter didn’t sign his or her name and I will only post comments by those who are not afraid to put their name to them.


This person made it quite clear that he/she feels animals should be treated the same as people.  There were accusations made in the comment and contempt and hate oozed from the words. 


I understand that people feel very strongly about animals, I was once of the mentality the same as these animal rights people, that animals are better than people and they deserve equal treatment if not better treatment than that allotted to humans.  So I understand where this commenter is coming from. 


What changed my way of thinking?  Well, I grew up, I became more involved in the business aspect of animal ownership and I began to put myself in the shoes of people whose livelihoods depended on an animal, either dead or alive.


I will never forget a conversation I had 11 years ago with who would now be my Mother-in-Law if she was still alive.  I commented how terrible it was that tigers were poached by native citizens to sell into the Black Market.  Her reply was, “do you begrudge that man for killing that tiger when in doing so he can feed and house his family for a year.  Would you take that away from him?  Can you honestly tell him he shouldn’t kill that tiger, and rather let his family starve?”


I was young and didn’t have a family to feed and I, like most of lower middle class people, have never known a day of hunger.  But I sat there speechless at that reply.  It was then I began to put the value of animals into perspective.  Even I, an openly proclaimed animal lover, couldn’t condemn a man for wanting to feed his family…even if it meant the life of a beautiful wild tiger.  Don’t get me wrong, I still had internal conflicts with this realization.  I still tried to rationalize a reason for that animal to live.  But ultimately, that conversation changed my whole outlook on life. 
And you know what?  It was very liberating.  I no longer felt weighed down by self-perceived notions of animal abuse or injustice that I felt the world was full of.  Bull fighting, dog fighting, wild elephant culls, the seal slaughter, dolphins in tuna nets, bile bear farming, and the dozens of other examples that I felt were terrible, terrible things and worse still, I could do nothing about.  I came to realize these were no longer my burdon.  As I began to see the positive side, the humanitarian side of the equation, the tragity didn't seem quite so huge. Yes, the animals are still affected.  But the way I precieve the issue has changed.  Does this mean I don't care about animals?  Not at all.  You wont find me hitting a baby seal to dealth.  But I don't hate the person who does do.  He is trying to feed his family also.  Nor will I engage in any campaign to stop that person from killing baby seals, unless I am willing to pay that person's salary for the rest of his life. 
I do what I can.  I don't buy seal skin boots and I do buy Dolphin safe tuna.  And I wont condemn anyone who does otherwise, and neither should you. 
So to address certain accusations and questions made by this commenter, I would say this.  Do we make mistakes?  Sure we do.  Are we guilty of neglecting and abusing our tortoise? I will admit we are guilty of not treating that tortoise as a human being.  But I don’t think that tortoise would want to be treated as a human any more then I want to be treated as a tortoise. 


Do we feel singled out and targeted?  Are we crying foul in regards to the way we have been treated by our governing authorities?  Yes, I guess we are.  Because we make it no secret that we treat animals like animals we offend the people who believe otherwise.  These offended people have lots of time to hound our government into submission who turn on use because we are the “escape goat”.  The government is of the mistaken notion that if GuZoo was gone, people would stop hounding them.  But the very day after SRD ordered GuZoo closed last June, a certain animal rights group out of Edmonton cheered and said,” yes! We got GuZoo!  Now lets go for Doug’s”.  And after Doug, who?  And where does it stop?


Yes, Devon our Tortoise has a new enclosure that all will be welcome to see when we open in April.  But I know it will only be a matter of time before the animal rights people find something terribly inadequate with it.  Why?  Because it is not about the animal.  It is about principalities. 

10 comments:

Stephanie Schnurr said...

I agree 100%, I think people need to realize that animals are animals, if they were in the wild do you think they would have a water dish? no i believe they would be drinking from what they can find like a river or a stream or a puddle in the dirt, would they have shelter? maybe if they found some or maybe not. They are animals!! I really believe people are just not happy with them selves when they feel the need to take things out on other people or a place like Guzoo, my children and i have only been a couple of times but i promise you that as long as Guzoo is open we will support it and all of the people that dedicate there lives to making Guzoo a fun family place for everyone to enjoy!
Thank you Guzoo for allowing me and my children to come and enjoy what you have to offer the memories we have will stay forever!!

an animal life said...

Good post Irene.

Yes, animals are animals, they are not little people in fur coats, and guess what? they should be treated as the animals that they are.

Animals should NEVER be abused or mistreated. All animals should (in my opinion) be treated with respect, whether they are free or held in human captivity.

But should we use them for our own benefit? Of course we should.

Many animal rights activists claim that there is no place for the use of animals in the technology rich 21st century.

However, it is my personal opinion, that the use of animals for food, clothing, labor, entertainment, research and companionship is not only culturally acceptable worldwide but is also necessary for a healthy planet.

Without meat many people would starve and others would suffer deficiency diseases.
Hides fur and feathers are environmentally friendly, man made fibers are not.
Without animal research for new products and medicine many people will die or become ill.
Without zoos, circuses, and other performing animals people will lose their respect for wild creatures.
Without animals for labor, human labor or machines must be substituted.
Without pets the world would be a poorer place.
Without animal byproducts the world would grind to a halt.

Anonymous said...

I WOULD condemn the man who "killed the tiger to feed his family" Why? Because it's crap. How the hell does everyone else who does not kill tigers feed their family?

DO we then say that dog fighting is ok, if you do it to feed your family? How horrid it would be for us to condemn a poor man that fights dogs to feed his family...

Do we then say that kidnapping children and trading them and selling them in the human sex trade is ok, because some of them men doing it are just doing it to feed their family?

One MUST have morals. There must be things NO ONE would do for money. We must have some kind of moral compass... Or we are doomed.

Would it be ok for someone to kill another person for money? So long as they used said money to feed their family? How about not killing someone? Would it be ok to rob a bank, so long as you used the money to feed your family? What about selling your dog to a dog fighting ring as bait? So long as you use the money to feed your family? What about selling your daughter to men to have sex with? So long as it feeds your family?

Where does one without morals draw the line? Where does one without empathy stop when it comes to harming living beings?

-Amber

Jessie said...

Yes, many poachers are from seriously impoverished countries and I personally believe that conservation programs should always consider human needs as well.

However, many serious conservationsts actually work to help communities while helping the wildlife.

See this video for an example:

http://www.ted.com/talks/john_kasaona_from_poachers_to_caretakers.html

Imagine what would happen if no one did anything about poaching. Rhinos, many parrot species, several big cat species, all the great apes, and all three elephant species (plus many others) would be gone eventually. Since so much of the economy in countries like Botswana, Namibia, or Zambia depend on their wildlife, if it were all allowed to be poached, things would be even worse there now.

Conserving wildlife and considering the needs of humans are not mutually exclusive concerns. They can go together.

ChantyblueEyes said...

I'm so excited for APRIL!
You guys treat your animals better then most zoos treat theirs :D

Rob Schwartz said...

How many of the individuals claiming animal rights are vegetarians? And how many are going to have a nice piece of meat for dinner tonight? Where do they think that piece of meat came from?

Rob

Anonymous said...

I am very disappointed to read the post you made. I follow this blog and was a strong supporter of Guzoo until now. I had always assumed you guys got a bad reputation and were just the unfortunate targets of a social media campaign for what they considered animal rights. I have personally been to Guzoo and had not found anything terrible wrong.

During the time when everyone rallied to shut down Guzoo, you tried to explain how much you cared for the animals and how much they meant to you. I do agree that animals are animals, but it is up to people to save them from the cruel activities others commit, such as bear bile, dog/bull fighting and the black market trade of exotic animals.

I thought a person such as yourself would realize that there are things you can do, and utilize Guzoo as a way to educate others at the terrible acts being committed and what the public can do to help.

It is obvious now that this is nothing more than a business to you and the animals are simply a business asset.

AbbyG

Jessie said...

Yes, I actually don't understand defending dog fighting as a justifiable way of making money to feed one's family. It's illegal in North America and one has to gamble to actually profit from it, and gambling is, of course, a good way to lose money. Dog fighters tend to have to associate with other criminals (hard drugs and weapons like cocaine are often seized at organized dog fights). Not to mention the fact that dog fighting is simply a sadistic and pointless activity that desensitizes people to violence. It's terrible for people and dogs.

Additionally, it's not true that all poachers or hunters are just trying to feed their families. Sure, that might be true in some cases, but many poachers are already wealthy people who are trying to get wealthier or who are trying to increase their social statuses by killing or keeping rare animals. A rather prominent person in the parrot world was caught smuggling Hyacinth and Vinaceous Amazons back in the 90s and he was not a poor person by any means.

I also don't think that using animals to make a living means that one has to skimp on their proper care.

Anonymous said...

I think that regardless of what you personally feel about animals, this is about the fact that you have been labeled "animal abusers" by supposed activists.
The truth is you take care of your animals. This is a free country and everyone has a right to thier views even if they are disagreeable to some.
I stand with you in getting the truth out, you are not exploiting animals in anyway and any profit you bring in goes back into the animals and your family. Is that wrong? not in my eyes. That is how it should be.Contiune to stand up for the truth!! Can't wait to see you all again.

Jace said...

In response to Stephanie Schnurr's comment... I find you logic absurd... You are correct that animals in the wild have no water dish, however please show me where animals at Guzoo have rivers, streams, or puddles??? Animals in the wild have the means, and resources to build or find their shelters, again please show me where animals at Guzoo have the same natural means???
When an animal is taken away from or born out of the wild, you cannot expect them to rely on their wild insticts...
Your thinking escapes me...